WASHINGTON – U.S. Senator Chris Coons (D-Del.), a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, last night joined MSNBC’s Brian Williams to discuss the Senate impeachment trial.
“When President Trump issued an order to freeze and withhold aid from Ukraine, he didn’t call anyone named Biden. There was no one named Biden working for him in the White House. He discussed it with Mick Mulvaney and with John Bolton. And there are two other folks that we’ve been trying to get in front of the Senate who work also in the White House who carried these orders out. We don’t have the documents, and we don’t have the witnesses,” said Senator Coons.
Video and audio available here.
Excerpts from the interview below:
Q: How many Republicans are yes votes, do you think?
Sen. Coons: Well, the question that’s right in front of us now that we’ll be working through and debating is how many might vote for witnesses, how many might say we want a real and a fair trial, and in particular we’d like to hear from John Bolton. I think that is between three and five at this moment. But frankly there is a bit of exhaustion setting in because of the ten-hour day we just had, the 90 questions that we ground through. It has put a sharp focus on areas that are unresolved. And where having an eyewitness, someone who was literally in the room where it happened, come forward and answer the question, ‘Did President Trump actually order withholding this vitally needed aid to Ukraine in order to leverage it for his own political benefit?’ If we could have an answer to that from John Bolton, I think that would go a long way towards helping the American people and the members of the Senate feel that this was an actual fair trial.
Q: Of course, then you had a guy with a D after his name, Senator Manchin from your caucus, say this morning, started off the news cycle that he wouldn’t mind hearing from Hunter Biden. So the big question has been at the end of the day will Republicans, especially those in the moderate sort, actually want to take that vote?
Sen. Coons: I doubt they would because frankly he’s not relevant. What we’ve seen over and over today is ways in which the steadily building pressure for testimony by John Bolton or documents like the notes of Ambassador Taylor would actually answer the question what happened in the White House and what did the President do. When President Trump issued an order to freeze and withhold aid from Ukraine, he didn’t call anyone named Biden. There was no one named Biden working for him in the White House. He discussed it with Mick Mulvaney and with John Bolton. And there are two other folks that we’ve been trying to get in front of the Senate who work also in the White House who carried these orders out. We don’t have the documents, and we don’t have the witnesses. I’m not sure why my colleague and friend Senator Manchin would think it would be constructive or relevant to go outside and bring in outside concerns which frankly Republicans tried pretty hard on the floor of the Senate to bring up over and over today. But no matter how many times they bring up the name Biden that doesn’t make that directly relevant to the issues that are in front of us. What’s most relevant is getting to the bottom of what the President did and didn’t do. And frankly, Brian, a very striking development just in the last day was that the former Chief of Staff, General John Kelly, publicly said I believe John Bolton. That suggests that he was in the room as Chief of Staff for similar incidents where he saw President Trump order things or make decisions about things that should trouble the American people and make us in the Senate here want to hear from relevant witnesses.
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WASHINGTON – During the Senate impeachment trial of President Trump, U.S. Senator Chris Coons (D-Del.) asked the Counsel for the President whether President Trump believes that foreign involvement in American elections is illegal.
“The President’s brief states, ‘Congress has forbidden foreigners’ involvement in American elections.’ However, in June 2019, President Trump said that if Russia or China offered information on his opponent, ‘[t]here’s nothing wrong with listening,’ and he might not alert the FBI because: ‘Give me a break. Life doesn’t work that way.’ Does President Trump agree with your statement that foreigners’ involvement in American elections is illegal?” Coons asked.
Senator Coons’ question quotes the President’s counsel’s brief from page 100, which cites the statute prohibiting solicitation of anything of value from a foreign national, directly or indirectly, in connection with an election (52 U.S.C. § 30121). As the President’s counsel is present in the Senate impeachment trial to represent the President, his answer to this question will have important implications for future elections and whether we should expect the President to seek or accept foreign help.
On several occasions, President Trump has encouraged foreign interference in American elections:
In July 2016, President Trump, in response to a question about reports that Russia was behind the theft of emails from the Democratic National Committee, said, “Russia if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing” from Hillary Clinton’s private email server.
In June 2019, President Trump said that if Russia or China offered information on his opponent, ‘[t]here’s nothing wrong with listening,” and that, “if somebody called from a country, Norway, [and said] ‘we have information on your opponent’ – oh, I think I’d want to hear it.” President Trump also stated that he might not alert the FBI because: “Give me a break.”
In July 2019, President Trump demanded, over the phone, that Ukrainian President Zelensky “do us a favor” by opening an investigation into President Trump’s leading political opponent, former Vice President Joe Biden.
Russia is preparing to attack our 2020 elections, which has been confirmed by several members of President Trump’s own administration:
In January 2019, then-Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats told the Senate Intelligence Committee: “We assess that foreign actors will view the 2020 U.S. elections as an opportunity to advance their interests,” Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats told the Senate intelligence committee. “We expect them to refine their capabilities and add new tactics as they learn from each other’s experiences and efforts.”
In July 2019, FBI Director Chris Wray told the Senate Judiciary Committee: “The Russians are absolutely intent on trying to interfere with our elections,” adding that “until they stop they haven’t been deterred enough.”
In July 2019, Special Counsel Robert Mueller told Congress: Russia is “doing it as we sit here, and they expect to do it during the next campaign.”
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“Safe affordable housing should be available to all Delawareans,” said Representative Blunt Rochester. “Whether it is permanent, temporary, or transitional, we must strategically coordinate our efforts to reduce homelessness and provide needed services to those who are most vulnerable. I am grateful to HUD for providing this $7.8 million Continuum of Care grant to help protect our most vulnerable citizens.”
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